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mark came in and sorted out my aerial problem this after noon after a call at lunchtime to their office and they do more that what it says on the tin, a great and honest service from a local company, highly reccommended when we move we will use them again. A job well done, thankyou.
16/9/11 from about 16:00Hrs to 17:30Hrs is
(Posted on 2011-09-16 18:08:00 by Paul Sucksmith)
Just like to add to the positive comments that everyone else has made. they did a fantastic job, no hidden extras, and saved me money with sound and psotive advise., certainly recommend these lads for the future .
(Posted on 2011-08-19 19:04:00 by ALLAN AND ANGIE AINSWORTH)
Thanks very much Mark and Jason,
Very straight forward and quick, can recommend Shenley Aerials left me very happy! 10 out of 10
02/08/11
(Posted on 2011-08-02 10:30:00 by Ivor)
I would absolutely recommend these guys! Fast, efficient service - straight to the point, and honest about what they can/can't do, and friendly/polite.
He explained exactly what he would be doing, and left the work really neat.
Thanks so much guys!
(Posted on 2011-07-13 15:41:00 by Rachael Roberts)
24 June 2011 - Excellent and friendly customer service. Prompt and quick problem solving. Would highly recommend.
(Posted on 2011-06-24 16:05:00 by George Francis (Springfield))
Excellent Service, and quick installation of Sky dish along with feeds to both my main Sky HD box and my multiroom box at very reasonable price. Fully Recommended.
(Posted on 2011-06-20 16:44:00 by Mr M Hope-Jefferson)
What fabulous service! Came out to assess problem with our practice TV's and fixed right there and then. Also made recommendations for cost effective improvements.Excellent customer service both on phone and face to face - efficient and effective. I would definately recommend this company to friends and colleagues. Well done Shenley Aeriels!
No hidden extras. Price adverised was price paid. Mark even saved me money by fixing my Sky dish at no extra cost! Sky would have charged £65 just to come out and have a look.
Fast, friendly, efficient service. Very happy with aerial and four points installed.
I have no hesitation in recommending to anyone!
(Posted on 2011-05-16 19:06:00 by Mrs L J Kalugin)
Thanks for providing such a friendly, efficient and professional service, and especially for fitting us in at a time that was convenient for us at short notice. We’re very happy with our new aerial; you did a really professional job at a very good price. I’ll be recommending you to all our family and friends.
(Posted on 2011-04-21 15:49:00 by Mr Williams)
Everything about the service provided by Mark, Paula and the team was first rate and we are absolutely delighted with the results. Even when we were struggling to get to grips with our new recorder, Paula talked us through what to do over the phone. We can't thank them enough for the excellent professional, personal and friendly service they provided. What we also particularly valued was the care they took in ensuring that the installation was carried out in a way they would want in their own home. Very much appreciated and highly recommended.
(Posted on 2011-03-27 18:14:00 by Mr & Mrs Evans)
Aerial installed on 17th January 2011. Really helpful and nice guys. Very professional job and sound pricing. Would thoroughly recommend.
(Posted on 2011-02-15 18:51:00 by Robin Bone)
Fast efficient call back, excellent service would recomend to all
(Posted on 2011-02-10 13:43:00 by Mrs Dormer)
Thanks so much to Mark and Jason turned up on time and did a fast efficient and economical job to solve the problems of living in MK with no aerial! Was very impressed that Paula volunteered a weekend appointment when she noticed my London contact details during the week. We contacted Mark on the strengh of a personal recommendation and no hesitation in passing it in. Thanks again.
(Posted on 2011-02-06 09:20:00 by Lisa Spearman)
These guys did exactly what is says on the tin. They were quick, efficient, didn't try to baffle with BS, and charged exactly what they said they would. I would recommend them to anybody requireing aerial or satellite services.
(Posted on 2011-01-31 14:02:00 by Malcolm Haig)
From first contact to completed job a very professional and friendly sevice.I would have no hesitation to recomend them to others.
(Posted on 2011-01-30 16:21:00 by Richard Howe)
12.01.2011
Brilliant service recieved from both Mark and Jason, (and especially Marks wife, who kept us fully informed by phone). Can strongly recommend them to anyone who have any doubts about having an installation carried out. There is no need to worry if you are not a technical wizz-kid as far as the switch-over is concerned as eveything was set up befor they left.
As far as the price is concerned it's clearly set out before they start, and there's no hard sell - you just get what you need.
Good luck for the future Shenley Aerials
Aerial fitted very efficiently, and all 4 TVs re-tuned even though I said I knew how to do it - excellent sevice.
Price exactly as quoted. I offered a tip, but du to my confusion over the payment ended up giving them only £1 - my fault - but the thought was there.
Thoroughly recommended
(Posted on 2011-01-21 11:53:00 by Malcolm Dobell)
I had the guys fit an aerial and cabling today, amd I'm very pleased with the result.
Their service, workmanship, helpfulness and friendlyness are second to none, I would strongly recommend Shenley Aerials to anyone.
(Posted on 2011-01-20 20:57:00 by David Bell)
14.1.11. I would recommend Shenley Aerials to anyone, they did not try to get me to buy the most expensive service, in fact what they offered was proberly the cheapest option, they were quick, cleared up as they went along and even took their shoes off at the door, ( how's that for respect of your property) and before leaving showed me how to use the system they had installed. Thank you so much, also a mention for Paula who was lovely and friendly when I spoke to her on the telephone :-)
(Posted on 2011-01-15 10:22:00 by Sandra Harper)
15 Jan 11
Mark (& Jason?) fitted a digital aerial and 2 points. The work was carried out quickly, efficiently and tidily. I even got a lesson on how to navigate all those channels and red button features! Great service, I can highly recommend Shenley Aerials.
(Posted on 2011-01-14 15:57:00 by Jane Lloyd)
11th Jan 2011
Aerial supplied and fitted for us by Mark.
Excellent service, friendly people, good advice and Mark made sure everything worked properly before leaving. Price good as well !!
Totally satisfied.
I don't think I could have done better than use Shenley Aerials.
(Posted on 2011-01-11 17:53:00 by David Watson)
In 2007 Mark installed a Freesat Box for me, installing a dish and running cables into my property. I was very satisfied with the treatment received that in November 2010 I contacted Mark to instal a Freesat+ Box for me. The work done was efficient and professional, even thoughtful, using my vacuum to tidy up. I highly recommend Mark and his crew for treating me with respect and in a friendly manner. I would mention that Mark's wife is also very friendly and helpful when speaking to her on the telephone. One could do no better than employ Mark and his crew .
Just wanted to say thank you very much Mark for sorting everyhting out. I probably was one of your more difficult customers but you dealt with all the requirements efficiantly and professionally. We have everything we need as requested. Thank you very much indeed I shall not hesitate to recommend you.
(Posted on 2010-11-02 18:02:00 by Louise)
many thanks for setting up my freesat and connecting a second tv will have you back to put a third cable in at some poiint great work
(Posted on 2010-10-12 09:07:00 by Dean James)
Mark did a quick, efficient tidy job. He explained the options and the costs very clearly and did the job the same day.
(Posted on 2010-10-10 22:11:00 by Andy - Shenley Brook End 10/10/10)
Mark knew his job backwards. There were some difficulties installing the aerial in our 3 storey house and there wasn't much room for Mark to work in. Extremely hard working and efficient. I would recommend Mark unreservedly.
(Posted on 2010-09-24 10:21:00 by John Baker)
Mark installed a Freeview Arial for me on 22.9.10 I found him to be polite, friendly and efficent - the job was done in around an hour. At time of writing this would recommend.
(Posted on 2010-09-23 15:39:00 by Tracey Tingey)
10/09/10 = arrived within given time, install service was very quick , and left things tidy after, i very happy with the service,and will recommend the service..
(Posted on 2010-09-10 09:44:00 by sue rose)
Mark arrived earlier than he expected...not a problem. Job completed quickly and at the price quoted, picture quality and signal much improved. Certainly would recommend to friends or if I need any future jobs done.
Thank you.
(Posted on 2010-09-02 16:28:00 by Andy - Neath Hill)
An excellent service provided by Mark, explained all the options open to us and completed the job to our complete satisfaction and at the price quoted beforehand.
(Posted on 2010-08-23 21:03:00 by James - Shenley Brook End)
First class service competetive, on time, courteous and helpful. I recomend Mark unreservedly.
(Posted on 2010-08-12 16:37:00 by Mike Stinton)
Arrived at est time given, excellent service, explained work needed, good price and cleared up afterwards!!! Fully recommend.
(Posted on 2010-07-09 09:13:00 by Sally Bletchley)
maurice 15/05 /10
called saturday pm. as promissed.Great value quote,did the job there and then. very friendly,fast and efficient.very satisfied would reccomend
(Posted on 2010-05-18 14:33:00 by maurice palmer)
Hi Shenly visited me on the 21/4 and discussed my options and installed freesat for me and showed me how worked. I will be calling them again to put feeds to the bedrooms
(Posted on 2010-05-05 09:41:00 by Dean James)
2.4.10 Friendly and efficient. Even installed on a Bank Holiday to get the job done. After-Sales was great as well - a booster from a dodgy batch failed but was replaced within a few hours. Highly recommended.
(Posted on 2010-04-21 21:00:00 by Pete, Caldecotte)
Mark came to see us on a Tuesday night and ran through a number of options available. His price was fair and itemised and the job was done that Saturday. He didn't leave til he was satisfied that everything was set up correctly and he ran through all the features of Freeview. No hesitation recommending him to others - if you want a job done well and quickly by a decent bloke, give him a call.
(Posted on 2010-03-20 07:15:00 by Andrew)
I'm very impressed with the professionalism, friendliness and dedication of Mark at Shenley Aerials.
Our TV reception has greatly improved as a result of Mark's hard work!
Just like to say a big THANKS!!
(Posted on 2010-03-17 11:59:00 by Jon (Medbourne))
shenley-aerials an amazing job kept me informed about the best options for me,honest to the point i over paid and shenley returned my payment to me.you done the rest this is surley the best.
A very professional service, always punctual, with good communication. The friendly interaction from start to finish is a refreshing change to a lot of companies and I would call and recommend again!! Many thanks!
(Posted on 2010-03-15 13:01:00 by Haydon)
Hello,
I wanted to leave my thanks for a great job! Would highly recommend to anyone, despite supporting a questionable football team a very friendly and efficient service!!!
(Posted on 2010-03-15 12:55:00 by P. Ervine)
A first class service in every way, I would strongly recommend Shenley Aerials to anyone. Thanks
(Posted on 2010-03-14 17:47:00 by John Lloyd)
Mark came to give us a free quote and not only gave us a great quote but the work was done within an hour and a half. Great Job!! We would defiantly recommend to others 5 Stars *****
(Posted on 2010-03-10 12:56:00 by Sarah Keane)
20-2-2010, We were very impressed with the speed and efficiency of Mark, we were able to have Freeview fitted to most rooms in our house with minimal mess and disruption. Once Freeview was up and running Mark provided lessons on using it and after care service to deal with any problems.
(Posted on 2010-02-22 19:48:00 by The Hyde Family, Shenley Lodge)
This is the first time i have used shenley aeials and found them to be a 1st class service, punctual,attention to detail, competent, also very competitive price, i would definetly use again.
(Posted on 2010-02-15 12:29:00 by TONY GREHAN, MIDDLETON.)
I found that Shenley Aerials were friendly, helpfull and a very professional. I would have no qualm in giving them the strongest recommendation to any one !!!...Keith
(Posted on 2010-02-13 11:30:00 by Keith Whitaker)
30/1/10 Mark did an excellant job. Mark was happy to come and give a free quote and was able to do the work on a Saturday, so i did not have to take time off work. Mark was very helpful by advising the neatest and cheapest way. Mess was kept to a minimum and Mark was very respectful of my home by taking his shoes off. The price was fair for the job. Would recommend him and will be contacting him in the future to up grade.
(Posted on 2010-02-11 21:15:00 by Chris from Monkston)
Mark installed a freesat dish for me on 9th Feb 2010 - excellent service, quick (next day!), efficient and great value. The installation was tidy and professional (and works great!). I would recommend Shenley Aerials without hesitation.
(Posted on 2010-02-11 11:35:00 by Mark Sanderson, Furzton)
Mike A - Bletchley 3.2.2010
I called Shenley Aerials in the morning, they returned my call within the hour and offered to call round to give free quote. The quote was very competitive and they proceeded to erect a freeview aerial immediately. From initial thought to full installation within 5 hourse - excellent service. I will certainlu use Shenley Aerials again
(Posted on 2010-02-05 15:52:00 by Mike Appleby)
We just wanted to thank you for the superb service we have received from Shenley Aerials. We have used other companies in the past and the service we received from you was by far the best. The efficiency and courtesy was as professional as you can get! We will certainly be recommending you to friends and family as we can't recommend you highly enough! Thankyou!
(Posted on 2010-02-02 17:23:00 by Mr & Mrs Quinn)
Second time we have used this company, first time for digital aerial this time to install FreeSat 2-2-10. As always top service, keen price and took the time to go over the sysem.
(Posted on 2010-02-02 10:11:00 by D JOHNSON FURZTON LAKE)
Outstanding service -Phoned on a Friday morning - discussed needs - agreed a specific time - Dish supplied and installation completed by 17:00 the same day. Pricing very reasonable and less than expected. Engineer was friendly, helpful and very professional. I would certainly recommend to anyone wanting an installation.
(Posted on 2010-02-01 09:31:00 by Installation in Loughton)
I went to this company on a recommendation by a Friend the service was excellent. They removed there shoes each time they went in and out and left my home spotless when the job was finished. Thank you
(Posted on 2010-01-31 09:18:00 by Sue kinsley)
A very Professional and friendly Company.They have respect for your home, Mark sorted our Problem and fixed it with in Twenty minutes.The price was very fair. I recommend this company for all the work and I will use them again when I upgrade in the future
(Posted on 2010-01-30 16:39:00 by Lance Howard)
Installed 17.01.09
Great job - good service - will definatley recommend to all. Thanks
(Posted on 2010-01-30 15:11:00 by D Collins)
What a fantastic service, we called at midday ,promised to quote the same afternoon and by 6pm all the problems were solved, no mess and a really nice guy.
This was the sort of service we used to get and the price was very very competitive.
Nice one Mark, thankyou.
BW
(Posted on 2010-01-30 09:18:00 by Brian Woodford)
Quick to respond, very tidy and respectful. Would definatley recommend you...thanks again!
mark came in and sorted out my aerial problem this after noon after a call at lunchtime to their office and they do more that what it says on the tin, a great and honest service from a local company, highly reccommended when we move we will use them again. A job well done, thankyou.
16/9/11 from about 16:00Hrs to 17:30Hrs is
Just like to add to the positive comments that everyone else has made. they did a fantastic job, no hidden extras, and saved me money with sound and psotive advise., certainly recommend these lads for the future .
Thanks very much Mark and Jason,
Very straight forward and quick, can recommend Shenley Aerials left me very happy! 10 out of 10
02/08/11
I would absolutely recommend these guys! Fast, efficient service - straight to the point, and honest about what they can/can't do, and friendly/polite.
He explained exactly what he would be doing, and left the work really neat.
Thanks so much guys!
24 June 2011 - Excellent and friendly customer service. Prompt and quick problem solving. Would highly recommend.
Excellent Service, and quick installation of Sky dish along with feeds to both my main Sky HD box and my multiroom box at very reasonable price. Fully Recommended.
What fabulous service! Came out to assess problem with our practice TV's and fixed right there and then. Also made recommendations for cost effective improvements.Excellent customer service both on phone and face to face - efficient and effective. I would definately recommend this company to friends and colleagues. Well done Shenley Aeriels!
13-5-2011
No hidden extras. Price adverised was price paid. Mark even saved me money by fixing my Sky dish at no extra cost! Sky would have charged £65 just to come out and have a look.
Fast, friendly, efficient service. Very happy with aerial and four points installed.
I have no hesitation in recommending to anyone!
Thanks for providing such a friendly, efficient and professional service, and especially for fitting us in at a time that was convenient for us at short notice. We’re very happy with our new aerial; you did a really professional job at a very good price. I’ll be recommending you to all our family and friends.
Everything about the service provided by Mark, Paula and the team was first rate and we are absolutely delighted with the results. Even when we were struggling to get to grips with our new recorder, Paula talked us through what to do over the phone. We can't thank them enough for the excellent professional, personal and friendly service they provided. What we also particularly valued was the care they took in ensuring that the installation was carried out in a way they would want in their own home. Very much appreciated and highly recommended.
Aerial installed on 17th January 2011. Really helpful and nice guys. Very professional job and sound pricing. Would thoroughly recommend.
Fast efficient call back, excellent service would recomend to all
Thanks so much to Mark and Jason turned up on time and did a fast efficient and economical job to solve the problems of living in MK with no aerial! Was very impressed that Paula volunteered a weekend appointment when she noticed my London contact details during the week. We contacted Mark on the strengh of a personal recommendation and no hesitation in passing it in. Thanks again.
These guys did exactly what is says on the tin. They were quick, efficient, didn't try to baffle with BS, and charged exactly what they said they would. I would recommend them to anybody requireing aerial or satellite services.
From first contact to completed job a very professional and friendly sevice.I would have no hesitation to recomend them to others.
12.01.2011
Brilliant service recieved from both Mark and Jason, (and especially Marks wife, who kept us fully informed by phone). Can strongly recommend them to anyone who have any doubts about having an installation carried out. There is no need to worry if you are not a technical wizz-kid as far as the switch-over is concerned as eveything was set up befor they left.
As far as the price is concerned it's clearly set out before they start, and there's no hard sell - you just get what you need.
Good luck for the future Shenley Aerials
Aerial fitted very efficiently, and all 4 TVs re-tuned even though I said I knew how to do it - excellent sevice.
Price exactly as quoted. I offered a tip, but du to my confusion over the payment ended up giving them only £1 - my fault - but the thought was there.
Thoroughly recommended
I had the guys fit an aerial and cabling today, amd I'm very pleased with the result.
Their service, workmanship, helpfulness and friendlyness are second to none, I would strongly recommend Shenley Aerials to anyone.
14.1.11. I would recommend Shenley Aerials to anyone, they did not try to get me to buy the most expensive service, in fact what they offered was proberly the cheapest option, they were quick, cleared up as they went along and even took their shoes off at the door, ( how's that for respect of your property) and before leaving showed me how to use the system they had installed. Thank you so much, also a mention for Paula who was lovely and friendly when I spoke to her on the telephone :-)
15 Jan 11
Mark (& Jason?) fitted a digital aerial and 2 points. The work was carried out quickly, efficiently and tidily. I even got a lesson on how to navigate all those channels and red button features! Great service, I can highly recommend Shenley Aerials.
11th Jan 2011
Aerial supplied and fitted for us by Mark.
Excellent service, friendly people, good advice and Mark made sure everything worked properly before leaving. Price good as well !!
Totally satisfied.
I don't think I could have done better than use Shenley Aerials.
In 2007 Mark installed a Freesat Box for me, installing a dish and running cables into my property. I was very satisfied with the treatment received that in November 2010 I contacted Mark to instal a Freesat+ Box for me. The work done was efficient and professional, even thoughtful, using my vacuum to tidy up. I highly recommend Mark and his crew for treating me with respect and in a friendly manner. I would mention that Mark's wife is also very friendly and helpful when speaking to her on the telephone. One could do no better than employ Mark and his crew .
Just wanted to say thank you very much Mark for sorting everyhting out. I probably was one of your more difficult customers but you dealt with all the requirements efficiantly and professionally. We have everything we need as requested. Thank you very much indeed I shall not hesitate to recommend you.
many thanks for setting up my freesat and connecting a second tv will have you back to put a third cable in at some poiint great work
Mark did a quick, efficient tidy job. He explained the options and the costs very clearly and did the job the same day.
Mark knew his job backwards. There were some difficulties installing the aerial in our 3 storey house and there wasn't much room for Mark to work in. Extremely hard working and efficient. I would recommend Mark unreservedly.
Mark installed a Freeview Arial for me on 22.9.10 I found him to be polite, friendly and efficent - the job was done in around an hour. At time of writing this would recommend.
10/09/10 = arrived within given time, install service was very quick , and left things tidy after, i very happy with the service,and will recommend the service..
Mark arrived earlier than he expected...not a problem. Job completed quickly and at the price quoted, picture quality and signal much improved. Certainly would recommend to friends or if I need any future jobs done.
Thank you.
An excellent service provided by Mark, explained all the options open to us and completed the job to our complete satisfaction and at the price quoted beforehand.
First class service competetive, on time, courteous and helpful. I recomend Mark unreservedly.
Arrived at est time given, excellent service, explained work needed, good price and cleared up afterwards!!! Fully recommend.
maurice 15/05 /10
called saturday pm. as promissed.Great value quote,did the job there and then. very friendly,fast and efficient.very satisfied would reccomend
Hi Shenly visited me on the 21/4 and discussed my options and installed freesat for me and showed me how worked. I will be calling them again to put feeds to the bedrooms
2.4.10 Friendly and efficient. Even installed on a Bank Holiday to get the job done. After-Sales was great as well - a booster from a dodgy batch failed but was replaced within a few hours. Highly recommended.
Mark came to see us on a Tuesday night and ran through a number of options available. His price was fair and itemised and the job was done that Saturday. He didn't leave til he was satisfied that everything was set up correctly and he ran through all the features of Freeview. No hesitation recommending him to others - if you want a job done well and quickly by a decent bloke, give him a call.
I'm very impressed with the professionalism, friendliness and dedication of Mark at Shenley Aerials.
Our TV reception has greatly improved as a result of Mark's hard work!
Just like to say a big THANKS!!
shenley-aerials an amazing job kept me informed about the best options for me,honest to the point i over paid and shenley returned my payment to me.you done the rest this is surley the best.
A very professional service, always punctual, with good communication. The friendly interaction from start to finish is a refreshing change to a lot of companies and I would call and recommend again!! Many thanks!
Hello,
I wanted to leave my thanks for a great job! Would highly recommend to anyone, despite supporting a questionable football team a very friendly and efficient service!!!
A first class service in every way, I would strongly recommend Shenley Aerials to anyone. Thanks
Mark came to give us a free quote and not only gave us a great quote but the work was done within an hour and a half. Great Job!! We would defiantly recommend to others 5 Stars *****
20-2-2010, We were very impressed with the speed and efficiency of Mark, we were able to have Freeview fitted to most rooms in our house with minimal mess and disruption. Once Freeview was up and running Mark provided lessons on using it and after care service to deal with any problems.
This is the first time i have used shenley aeials and found them to be a 1st class service, punctual,attention to detail, competent, also very competitive price, i would definetly use again.
I found that Shenley Aerials were friendly, helpfull and a very professional. I would have no qualm in giving them the strongest recommendation to any one !!!...Keith
30/1/10 Mark did an excellant job. Mark was happy to come and give a free quote and was able to do the work on a Saturday, so i did not have to take time off work. Mark was very helpful by advising the neatest and cheapest way. Mess was kept to a minimum and Mark was very respectful of my home by taking his shoes off. The price was fair for the job. Would recommend him and will be contacting him in the future to up grade.
Mark installed a freesat dish for me on 9th Feb 2010 - excellent service, quick (next day!), efficient and great value. The installation was tidy and professional (and works great!). I would recommend Shenley Aerials without hesitation.
Mike A - Bletchley 3.2.2010
I called Shenley Aerials in the morning, they returned my call within the hour and offered to call round to give free quote. The quote was very competitive and they proceeded to erect a freeview aerial immediately. From initial thought to full installation within 5 hourse - excellent service. I will certainlu use Shenley Aerials again
We just wanted to thank you for the superb service we have received from Shenley Aerials. We have used other companies in the past and the service we received from you was by far the best. The efficiency and courtesy was as professional as you can get! We will certainly be recommending you to friends and family as we can't recommend you highly enough! Thankyou!
Second time we have used this company, first time for digital aerial this time to install FreeSat 2-2-10. As always top service, keen price and took the time to go over the sysem.
Outstanding service -Phoned on a Friday morning - discussed needs - agreed a specific time - Dish supplied and installation completed by 17:00 the same day. Pricing very reasonable and less than expected. Engineer was friendly, helpful and very professional. I would certainly recommend to anyone wanting an installation.
I went to this company on a recommendation by a Friend the service was excellent. They removed there shoes each time they went in and out and left my home spotless when the job was finished. Thank you
A very Professional and friendly Company.They have respect for your home, Mark sorted our Problem and fixed it with in Twenty minutes.The price was very fair. I recommend this company for all the work and I will use them again when I upgrade in the future
Installed 17.01.09
Great job - good service - will definatley recommend to all. Thanks
What a fantastic service, we called at midday ,promised to quote the same afternoon and by 6pm all the problems were solved, no mess and a really nice guy.
This was the sort of service we used to get and the price was very very competitive.
Nice one Mark, thankyou.
BW
Quick to respond, very tidy and respectful. Would definatley recommend you...thanks again!